Straight Outta The Lair with Flex Lewis
7x Mr. Olympia 212 Champion Flex Lewis presents Straight Outta The Lair, the podcast that aims to bring you vital information for your life's ambitions, providing valuable insight from interviews of the many many different faces that walk through our doors at The Dragon's Lair Las Vegas and a few from the man himself.
Straight Outta The Lair with Flex Lewis
Inside Power Slap 8 | Turp Daddy Slim & Real Deal Trujillo | Straight Outta The Lair Podcast
Prepare to be captivated as we take you inside the adrenaline-pumping world of Power Slap 8. Experience the excitement through firsthand accounts from champions who've felt the incomparable energy of a live audience. Journey with us as we recount how Power Slap evolved from a casual dinner conversation to a major sporting event, attracting notable crossover athletes like Paige VanZant from the UFC and WWE. Discover what their participation means for the future of Power Slap and the sport's rapid growth.
We'll unpack the essential rules and strategies that define this fascinating sport. The mental preparation and composure required to succeed are paramount, and you'll learn how competitors master the balance between power and technique, drawing parallels to boxing. Our discussion highlights the emotional and strategic elements that make Power Slap a unique and compelling combat sport, underscoring the significance of maintaining discipline to avoid disqualifications.
Hear inspiring stories of personal transformation, like that of Robert Trujillo, who went from a humble job and struggling with training expenses to becoming a celebrated Power Slap athlete with financial stability and even his own day of recognition in his hometown. We'll also delve into the colorful personalities and intense rivalries that animate this sport, from humorous post-match celebrations to serious coaching dynamics. Get ready for an inside look at weight management, the potential for celebrity matchups, and the future aspirations of Power Slap as it aims for global recognition and perhaps even Olympic glory.
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00:00:00 - Intro
00:11:46 - Rules and Strategies of Power Slap
00:19:53 - From Land Surveying to Power Slap
00:22:52 - Life Transformation Through Power Slap
00:30:57 - The Power Slap Redemption Knockout
00:43:17 - Coaching and Rivalry in Competitive House
00:50:11 - Weight Cutting in Power Slap
01:00:15 - Celebrity Slap Callouts and Power Evolution
straight out the lab, flex and rock rock yes, sir, we're here we have a special episode today we sure do got the power slap champs in the house, welcome welcome to the guys yes, sir I appreciate both you guys.
Speaker 1:Um, obviously, listen, we're going to get into to the weeds in the episode, but um big event this weekend power slap eight, live and free. Let's talk about that, guys a badass venue.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm stoked.
Speaker 2:I'm stoked for fountain blue new new venue right like first time there, like yeah, does that make you guys like going into a new venue. Like that does that give you guys more hype? Like, are you more excited going in?
Speaker 3:uh, yeah, definitely, because it shows that the sport's growing. You know, um, we're branching off from the apex. You know it's always cool at the apex, you know, because you got all. You got all the history there of everything that's been there. But branching off to these new, bigger casinos uh, soon, maybe different states, you know, everything like that. It shows how much this is growing and it shows, uh like, what we as athletes are doing for the sport, you know. So it's it's super exciting, definitely, yeah the crowd is everything dude.
Speaker 4:I want, I want 50 000, 100 000 in there well, we all know you love the crowd.
Speaker 2:I was going to say I was like you're perfect for the crowd Just to feel that energy.
Speaker 1:Power Slap 8, again. I've been there for every single one, as you guys know, Big fan of Power Slap. In fact, I was kind of in that little conversation where you were going to get slapped. No, I knew it was coming. Not them dropping names here, but myself and Hunter name drop were at dinner and he said to me I'm working on this Power slap. Have you ever seen this? And of course I'd seen it from international.
Speaker 1:Said bro, it's wild, yeah, we're going to do this and, needless to say, what that conversation has turned into. Now I have two of the biggest stars here sitting in front of us and it's truly turned into this now Incredible, incredible sport. So I want to stay on Power Sap 8 because we've got two new faces Just announced Paige Van.
Speaker 4:Zandt yeah that's it.
Speaker 1:Wow, what a great introduction to a new sport that she's doing. And what do you guys think about these new faces that are now potentially crossing over from the UFC? I know, obviously you're undefeated UFC, which we will talk about, don't worry, my man, I know, I know. But again, what do you think about Paige Van Zandt and also the man that I actually got seen and shown many times before Power Slap started?
Speaker 4:Dumplin' Dude's an animal, really and shown many times before Power Slap started. Dumplin' Dude's an animal Really. Somebody just from you know just the perfect Russian for Power Slap and that's you know. Faces like Dumplin' Paige. It's perfect for the sport. You know, the more talent, the well-known talent, that gets in there is just going to legitimize it, because there's tons of people talking their shit, running their mouth, this and that, but with what Dana's done with it from the humble beginnings, like you said, the small conversation, you know watching people like Dumplin, and he's turned it into a super successful thing now that it is, and I love competing every time I get the opportunity to.
Speaker 2:It's a good point too, because, you know, like, paige coming in is another part of the evolution right of the sport, right, Like you know, eventually, right, you get someone like nate diaz in there, right, like, wouldn't that be, I mean, for one of you guys?
Speaker 2:right, like it'd be pretty cool to go against to get like nate diaz yeah, and he's, like, you know, like slapping right, stockton slap, yeah, the stockton slap. So I feel like that's like got to be exciting for you guys as well. Right, you have, you know, people integrating now into the league, like UFC fighters. Maybe we get some WWE guys in the future. What do you guys think about it?
Speaker 3:I think it's super exciting that Paige is coming, because it is showing that other star athletes are wanting a crossover. I've been saying it in all my interviews since the start. I told, Dana, get me someone from the UFC to slap against me. The competition I've been against is a little too easy right now.
Speaker 2:Oh my guy, I like it. Get me one of these guys up in here.
Speaker 4:Championship talk right here, guys, already.
Speaker 1:It's on the way. Talking on the theme of UFC, you are undefeated in MMA. How was the transition and how did you get involved with Power Slap coming from the UFC and how did you get involved with Power Slap coming from the?
Speaker 3:UFC, you know. So you know me coming from like an MMA background, I didn't really know too much about this sport. I didn't look at it, you know, and my whole reason for signing up was to meet Dana. I'm like, all right, I might be able to get my foot in the door with this. I'm not fighting, but I could go show him my power, I could show him I could take a hit and um, it's just kind of blown up since then and it's been, it's been like a wild ride. You know, like I did not expect any of this and I expected to blow up this much and, uh, it's been amazing, um, not only for my slap career but for my fight career. You know, I've made enough to where I could just chill. I don't work right now and I'm training full-time, so it it's helping out my fight career as as much as it's helping out my fight career as much as it's helping out my slap career.
Speaker 3:So, you're still training MMA at the same time.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, so that's pretty much all the training I focus on. And then the last week, because, like I said, the transition you're talking about one of the hardest things is in boxing and MMA we're taught to pivot on all our punches and in slap you're not allowed to do that, you'll get disqualified. So for me, the biggest transition is watching my feet. So I do my mma training, I do a lot of wrestling, I do a lot of boxing for my hit. Uh, wrestling helps my neck strength out, you know, for for taking the hit and um, you know, I just know how to brace for a hit from fighting for so long. You know, I know how to, I know how to receive the hit and I feel like that's a big aspect.
Speaker 3:On the sport, definitely A lot of people you see all the time they post their videos they're just consistently worried on throwing a slap. And for me, I always worry about my defense, I'm worried about my neck strength, I'm worried about how I'm going to brace, everything like that. I already know I could throw a punch and that's essentially what I'm doing with the open hand I'm throwing this, you know. So I I work hard, super hard on my defense, on my everything I could to take the hit so um the transition.
Speaker 2:The hardest part for me, like I said, was keeping my feet down um but not flinching, I would think too right, because you're so used to like, you're like I'm gonna bob that shot yeah, and I've always been like the type of fighter like my fighting style has always been a brawling style I like to fight.
Speaker 4:You know, you've already been taking shots yeah, it's not a problem and it's.
Speaker 3:It's different from like you hear. Like some mma fighters talk about it who who have like a wrestling background, they're like I'm not letting no one damn hit me for the open shot. That's because they don't like to get hit. You know what I mean. For me, that wakes me up. I think I've lost the. I've had five matches. I've lost coin toss four times, so I've been hit for four times and to me that's I'm like all right, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a lot to say, man, because I've been to all the power slaps as well, and the very first one I went to. Every guy who lost the coin toss got knocked out. And I was got knocked out and I was like, oh shit, like you know, the coin toss really makes a big difference. Right, it's like you don't want to be the first guy getting slapped, but you know, is that an advantage for you, because you like to get hit and you're like, give me that first one and then I'm gonna come back on you, right?
Speaker 3:um, I think while I'm up there it translates into an advantage. But before you know, I'm the same way as anyone, even though I am a fighter, and and all this, and that I get nervous for fighting and I get a ton more nervous for power slap.
Speaker 3:I tell all my fighting buddies and for me it's because I do have a legit fight background. Sometimes I go against just some dude who's strong. You know what I mean. And for me I think that's one of the things that does scare a lot of UFC fighters is they could come in with this really good fight background and you could just go against some strong streets and get taken.
Speaker 2:I was going to say the same thing about Paige right, because, like there's got to be a lot of pressure on her right now coming from the UFC. It's like.
Speaker 1:I'm bad knuckle.
Speaker 4:She's got to win, she's got to win Right. Superstar. Yeah, superstar, she's been in the mixed martial arts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that is going to be one of those things You're saying. A lot of guys are still a little nervous. They don't want to come in, get knocked out and look like a chump and then have to go back to UFC like, ah, that's the dude who got slapped and knocked out. So I feel like there is that crossover barrier right now, but I feel like it's going to continue and I think Paige coming in is a great example of that and getting some of these other people in the mix. They've got to take a little bit of something to get in there and get some balls and get some of these guys going.
Speaker 1:I know a lot of fighters that say hell, no, I am not doing anything involved with power, slap if I cannot defend myself. And I want to go back to that question. I wanted you guys to answer how do you train to defend yourself, knowing that, say you lost the coin toss, you have to take that first slap. What are the things you're doing?
Speaker 4:Dude, life's just. It's not something you can train for, because you can't just stand there and get hit in the face or let somebody slap you in the face just willingly, without protecting yourself. So to do some boxing or mixed martial arts training would probably be the best route, but just to have somebody slap you in the face, it just ain't for everybody. Honestly, it comes down to whether or not you can flip that switch on and let that light stay on after you get hit because the bulb might bust. If you can keep that bulb on and let that light stay on after you get hit because the bulb might bust, if you can keep that bulb on and you keep that light on it and keep the room lit, you're fine, but just everybody can't.
Speaker 1:Well, we all know you have a bulb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going to say I notice when you take the hit I kind of see your shoulders like you're kind of getting your neck tucked right, so it's not. You know like explain, like how are you? Like when you guys are taking the hit, right, obviously for me I box and like when you see a shot coming, you're able to take it better, right, like I've seen some guys close their eyes, I've seen some stuff like that. Like what's the thought process you guys have when you're about to take that slap?
Speaker 3:Like you said, your neck is your shock absorber. You know, like when this initially came came out, a ton of guys are just working on their jaw strength and that's not gonna do shit you know, you got a strong ass jaw, and you're still gonna get your neck flung around cranked out and uh, so I, I work on my neck strength a lot and for me it might sound cliche with anything.
Speaker 3:You know, like, breathing is super important and um, you know, just like you said you box, you know you're taught to exhale on your hits just in case you do receive a counter hit and um, so, like, one of the things I tend to work on a lot is, uh, my breathing, because you see a lot of guys they go up there and they get super tense, super tense, and that's not good, you know, it's just like you want to be light, yeah and at the same time you don't want to just be loosey-goosey up there.
Speaker 3:You don't want to just be like you know so mid ground. So I'm watching, like when they're, when they tell me their hand and count and their wind up. You know I have my eyes open and I'm watching, watch your count and I'm breathing. You know they come to loose.
Speaker 3:And then, as a third one comes, I close my eyes and I tense real quick. You know like there's a difference between just being holding up their tensing real quick and just quick, you know, exhaling, and tensing up their tensing real quick and just quick. Right now, exhaling and tensing, and to me I feel like that's, I feel like that's the perfect strategy on to take it on, to taking the hit, you know, and then ultimately what it boils down to is, you know, some people got a chin, some people don't you know, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 4:That's the bottom line you know it ain't for everybody what are you thinking when?
Speaker 2:when you're about to take that hit, you know what's going through your mind hit hit me.
Speaker 4:I'm pumped up there. Ain't too much calm in it. You know I don't really take any deep breaths. I'm focused, I'm looking. You know I'm trying to penetrate this soul.
Speaker 2:Intimidation.
Speaker 4:Intimidation.
Speaker 1:I see you shit talk. You are being so PG. This is the straight out of the lab, bro.
Speaker 4:Let it loose Straight out of just trying to be a dragon up there and breathe heat on their ass, man, and looking at the shot the whole time. You know, I've from being a fan of it, like watching the first season, I made a connection. It seemed like everybody who not Rob, but everybody who was shutting their eyes seemed like they stayed shut and they went to sleep after that, you know, after they got hit.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 4:So then you know, I started thinking about these things as I'm watching.
Speaker 4:And you started thinking about these things as I'm watching and you know, I I've always just been able to just kind of just nut up on it and just bear on whatever it is you know from, just in general, bite down on that thing, and uh, I think there's there's a lot of of just because you don't want to over brace. You know, because people well, this is what I tell these folks you can do all this shit you want. You can bite down on the mouthpiece, you can brace as hard as you want, you can close your eyes, take your breath. If you don't got that switch on, it don't matter, it don't matter, it's gonna stay off and the room's gonna be dark that's it.
Speaker 2:There's still a mental preparation for every single one of those right. It's like and I would say too like as a, as a fan and you know somebody just watching like you know, I've been learning all the pieces right and then it's like it's hard not to just take that little bit of like you're trying to roll with the shot right, so you're starting to like move right and you guys get flagged on those Like what are those rules?
Speaker 4:I don't even know how to do that, man, I'm not a boxer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know you roll with a shot right. So I've seen guys and then you guys get called. There's a flag on that.
Speaker 4:Two for flinching. That's the best rule in the game, my favorite.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about the rules For somebody who's just watching this for the first time. I have no clue. We've talked about a few things that may have gone over the audience's head, but in being the offense you can choose correct. One, slap, two, slap. Go on one, go on two, go on three. Can you explain the rules of power? Slap for somebody who has no clue. And then we're talking about flinching and stuff. I don't want the audience, who is new to this, for it to go over their head. So we can get the rules down for somebody now who's going to join in on Friday night and watch this for the first time, to have some sort of basis on this new and fastest growing sport.
Speaker 4:It's interesting because there's. You know, as an assumption, you wouldn't think there's many rules to it, but honestly there's. There's quite a bit, and it's kind of just like strategic and nitpicky rules. You know it's your, your, your heel movement can't be, you know, egregious over something that looks like it's just from um momentum or versus uh, where when your hand hits their face, because they got those fancy ass cameras, they can see all that shit. So when they're, when your hand hits their face is the time where you'd be able to to let some of that momentum come through on the slap, or just keep your feet glued to the ground. So it's like a tricky rule. You can either be good at it and try to do it by the rules, or keep your feet glued down to the ground because it's very short.
Speaker 3:You got to do it correctly or you're going to get fouled, yeah, and like he's saying, you know, like, and the rule he's talking about is you know we're lifting our feet and pivoting our feet Right and, like he said, you can either be good at hitting that connection and letting it fall through or you could just be good at keeping your feet glued Because you can't pivot, you can't turn your, you can't turn over.
Speaker 3:You can. That's new to me, see. Yeah, so I think that's where, like, a lot of fans watching are like you know? Like what? How do you do it? You know I'm like, well, you're not like you. It's harder to generate power, you know. And, like you said, boxing, you know we, we generate our power off pivoting and not being able to do that. It's it's, it's tough to generate that power. You got to find different techniques on how to and, like you said, that, like they, they're giving leniency on like you connect and then your momentum could carry you over, or you could just keep your feet glued. And me, you know, like I said growing up, boxing, you know I try to keep my feet glued Because if I even think I'm going to try to get that little leniency, I'll probably turn my foot over before I even connect, you know. So I don't want to risk getting disqualified, you know, especially if you don't want to get that's your habit too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, build that, yeah, and the worst kind of loss, you know, besides getting knocked out no one wants to get knocked out but the worst kind of loss is beating yourself. You go out there and knock this dude out, but you pivoted your foot and now you got disqualified. You know, to me that's not a good feeling, you know, and I think, like coming into the very first season you know I competed on season one um, I think coming into that, you know a lot of guys didn't think this would go as far as it is. So I think a lot of guys are like, oh shit, well, at least I'm not the dude getting knocked out, even if I do get disqualified. You know.
Speaker 3:And now you know especially the level we're on both. You know, competing for championships, you know like to go out there and get disqualified and beat yourself. You know that's not something we want to face, you know. So the rules, the rules on offense, are like, like you said, with the feet, and then there's a whole aspect of where you got to hit. You know you got to be on target, you know so.
Speaker 1:So where is that target? Because I've seen people get called out for clubbing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, because it's almost like you're karate chopping him in the throat right. I've seen a couple of those. Yeah, so you can't hit below the chin.
Speaker 3:You can't hit close to the eye, you can't hit close to the ear. You know your hand has to stay right on that area of of the cheek. You know which which you know I don't. I don't see why guys steer away from hitting from that area, because that is where the button, the knockout, is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how many? How many slaps do you guys practice before you go in? And I mean that's part of the strategy, right? You guys are, you know, putting a target up and you're hitting right on that spot, right over and over, or how does that work?
Speaker 4:a bunch, yeah, yeah, yeah, a bunch with the, with the practice dummy, the bob bob. That's been my biggest tool is having that. I think we need a slap machine.
Speaker 2:Flex. I know, Like you know, how they have those punching machines Like Power. Slap needs to come out with one of them slap machines to test the power.
Speaker 3:So they made their first ever one.
Speaker 1:Oh, there we go, let's talk about that and it's sick.
Speaker 4:It is.
Speaker 3:Dude, they got like, so they got it looks like a ball, except it's a little flatter, so you can smack it. Yeah, and they. You know I don't really see these on the actual punch scenes, but they got this screen on there and that screen's replaying knockouts and eats.
Speaker 1:So me and.
Speaker 3:Terp are both on there. Me and him both have a knockout on there. We both have a little view of us getting hit and like just taking the shot. So getting hit and like just taking the shot, so, um, you know, I guarantee they're gonna be dropping some more, you know I mean, I think it would be, I think the street or the land you to get one in the.
Speaker 1:Uh, in the new studio we go get some more power. Slap guys on that, you know.
Speaker 2:Test our high score yeah, so does it have your guys's like slap power on there and then people can try to like slap as hard as you guys?
Speaker 3:no, but I think that'd be. Yeah, a cool addition. That would be sick.
Speaker 4:That's cool to just show how far that Power Slap has came. Now they got damn games. I know, Not just on your phone, but in the bars and shit. A game like that could be put in a bar, you guys ever slap anybody on the street.
Speaker 2:Let's get into the bars. Have you guys ever had to slap someone out on the street? You know, just like, because I feel like people probably come up to you guys and they're like yo, you're from. Slap like, smack me right, because I've seen it with fighters, dude I've seen dudes do it.
Speaker 3:I've seen dudes do it and I've seen dudes let because they're trying to talk to girls. I've seen some of my boys say, oh well, yeah, I do slap, you could slap me, and I'm like you guys are you guys don't have, you don't want this, you don't want this, you don't want this.
Speaker 2:You guys are stupid. I'm liquid courage, right? I?
Speaker 3:slap a drunk dude at the bar, bro. I feel like I'm going to kill him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you would. I feel like you would.
Speaker 3:I steer away from that, you know. And then the same aspect even if it is a girl slapping you, my friends are trying to, you know. Have some game with the girls.
Speaker 1:I'm like I ain't letting me you know what I mean. Like that, I know there's that one chick that truly has power too.
Speaker 4:You don't want to feel it next thing you know she knocks you out. I know then she's not really digging you. Yeah, that'd be all over. Ig power slap too. Yeah, that's definitely the way to shoot her down.
Speaker 2:Yeah but do guys, do you guys come up and ask you to slap all the time, all the?
Speaker 4:time dude. Yeah, I've been getting just like staring at me. I swear it's just been the weirdest thing. Want me to slap you, and it's almost like that. It's like they're thinking about it. Should I ask him Maybe?
Speaker 1:they're just looking at you going. Is that who I think it is, bro, you got to get used to this. That's another thing, right? You guys now have become the faces for Power Slap. How has life changed for both of you guys? I know that you have your own day in raton in new mexico. That's got to be cool in itself, and I'm sure you have, you know, your own stories about being recognized around. Let's get into the weeds on some of these stories of how life has changed for you guys tremendously.
Speaker 4:You know from the beginning like, uh, I started, you know, just working a land surveying job in 10, 12 hours a day, um, covered in mud, you know, traversing through the swamps, cutting line all the time, getting covered in poison ivy, poison oak, all that sweet shit. And then Miss Erica called me and ever since then it just went through the roof, dude, I had my first match and started, you know, just just letting it out, letting some of that competitive edge that I got inside of me out, just having fun. And ever since, and just blown up, you know it's just sold.
Speaker 2:You know I've just been having fun with it how did you find, how did you find that power, power slap, was going on? I mean, obviously you being in fighting, it's kind of close to you know, you're kind of close to that world, like for you. How did the power slip reach out to you?
Speaker 4:or you saw something and then you yeah no, I saw, I shit, they wouldn't have reached out to me dog, I was just a good old boy Ain't got no reason to call me about.
Speaker 4:I've seen their show and I said, hell yeah, I'm gonna try to get on it because I'll be. I'm the first to let anybody know. You know I'm not. No, you know, tremendous superstar athlete. You know I wrestled and played football in high school. I've always been kind of quick on my feet and I've always just had fun competing. But I'm not some athlete like Robert here. You know he's built himself into a, you know, mixed martial artist, something to be, you know, happy about. That's just not me. So I came off the couch with it and saw the show that they were doing and, uh, just been putting my all into it yeah and put my own.
Speaker 2:That's an interesting point, because you said you came off the couch right and he's he's fighting, you know professionally right. So you don't necessarily have to be like a stud athlete to be good in this sport and well, it ain't for everybody though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's exactly why I said I think a lot of fighters are scared to do this. Yeah, because you could get a guy off the couch like Terp, who's a dog.
Speaker 2:Look like a punk and knock out, yeah, and go get knocked.
Speaker 3:You put Terp against, like some of these 205 UFC fighters, and I think he put some of their lights out.
Speaker 3:And you know, on top of that it's because you know a lot of these guys have been knocked out a lot, so their, their chins already dust, you know, and that's, that's some I think a lot of people don't realize is after you've already got your chain cracked a few times, and it's a good point. It's a repetitive thing, you know, I mean, unless you give your time some actual give yourself some actual time to heal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and sometimes you're you're never the same, right, because you're your brain barrier, right like even as you get older it's a little tougher. So, yeah, I agree, I think some of the UFC guys, I think some, you know, even like some of the influencers that are getting into this, they're thinking about it, but they haven't made that jump yet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's scary. I want to ask, on the back end of, what Turp was saying about how Power Slap has changed.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, so Power Slap has changed. Oh yeah, so Power Slap has changed my life a ton. So I had the day in my little hometown before I started doing all this, you know, because I was, like I said, I came from a small town like 5,000 population people, you know.
Speaker 1:Retorn New Mexico.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir, and I was just, you know, I was training we're training out of a garage pretty much and I was going and I was beating these guys from big gyms, you know, big gyms out of Denver, big gyms out of Albuquerque. You know I was beating guys from Jackson's. You know I beat a couple guys from Factory X, um, you know, I was beating these big gym, big gym guys, you know, and um, I I also worked my, my daytime job at the time. I was working with, like, behavioral challenge kids, you know, so I would. I was always working with kids who were going through things, cuz I grew up like them.
Speaker 3:I grew up on the streets, you know, I grew up if I took a whole different route.
Speaker 3:You know a lot of my friends growing up, a lot of them are in jail, a lot of them have died, a lot of them are hooked on drugs, you know.
Speaker 3:But I took a whole different route, you know, and I, like I said, necessarily didn't have the experience of like, of being in trouble like some of these kids, but but I've seen all my friends go through it, you know. So I was able, I would go talk to the kids, um, every once in a while I would take some of my championship titles to the schools. I would talk to the kids and that's kind of, that's kind of where they they put the day uh, for me there in my little town, you know, and um, it's kind of cool after a couple like my big MMA wins, you know just some people to get together and um with power stop, you know, like, because you know fighting on these smaller end uh promotions trying to get to the ufc, you know you don't get paid that much like you. You ultimately get paid enough just to pay for the training camp you went through.
Speaker 3:You know I mean I'm I'm having to drive out of town to train. You know I'm staying out of town to train, like different gyms. You know, um, having to go on these crazy diets, everything like that. So there'd be days where I'm like asking my mom, my grandpa, can you just give me 20 bucks for gas I got to get to training, can I, you know, my account be in the negative sometime. You know I was struggling, you know, and not like to the point where, like you know, my bills were paid. You know, all my bills were paid. My job was good. You know, all my bills were paid. But trying to get to training, trying to follow the dream, you know I was struggling with that, you know. And, um, now, since powerslap, like I said, I don't work. You know I I've, uh, I've made enough money where I do train full-time and it's not time.
Speaker 3:Gave you the time to train yeah, and I and it's not just you know with what I'm making for powerslap, it's just you know, like, how big it's going. I got a lot of different like companies, you know, coming at me for sponsorships, stuff like that. So, um, it's been a huge, you know, a huge blessing in my life. You know, and and, um, I just want to keep it going.
Speaker 2:You know, like, strike, while the iron's hot boys keep that, keep that momentum I want to know about this robert truehill day.
Speaker 1:What goes on in that day?
Speaker 4:I bet the parade's badass yeah, the parade's cool.
Speaker 3:You know, this is like I said. It's just, it's mainly, like you know, like people are like they get the little firefighter crew together and they get it going, and it's mainly just like a lot of people I know, you know, and it's not like a big old crazy holiday that we do anything but me and all my friends, we get together and we barbecue and we like just celebrate it together. You know, and it's not ever something I like try, I like ever like to push on people, but like my friends are like you started doing it more and you started, you know, building yourself more. But like I've always been like such a humble guy to where I'm like, oh, I feel like I'm trying to make it all about me, but they're like, no, like you've, you've earned this, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I appreciate the humility and the and obviously the confidence that's. That's traits true to my heart, but, uh, I don't have a Flex Lewis day. That's for sure, and I come from small towns in Wales, so everyone's watching back home. Flex Lewis needs his day.
Speaker 3:So you know speed on.
Speaker 1:But let's talk about again the nicknames.
Speaker 4:Terp, daddy Terp, daddy Slim, terp, daddy Slim. It was too easy, man.
Speaker 1:Where did this? First of all, it's a great name.
Speaker 4:It's a great name.
Speaker 1:It's a great name, but where did this come from? And then, is this you or is this the switch we spoke about earlier in the beginning of the podcast?
Speaker 4:So I mean it's inside of me, so it's ultimately me. You know, when I was wrestling, when I was playing football, I loved just exploding out there. Just, I mean so many times my coach would tell me to calm down. When I was playing football, I loved just exploding out there. I mean so many times my coach would tell me to calm down. You know, you just tackled somebody.
Speaker 3:It's just a tackle for loss.
Speaker 4:It's just a sack, it's just this or that. Shout out to Coach Hodge, but he always would. Well, I would just be so amped up all the time, anything I was doing. So it's definitely just me. But it's the switch too, because I mean I can't just be walking around just yelling at people like give me my milk, you know where the is my eggs at.
Speaker 4:are you kidding me? You're out of this shit. But it, uh, the nickname came from, you know, my, uh, my middle school football coach. He started calling me terp and then a buddy of mine in high school, it just it. He started calling me terp daddy slim and then it just stuck around and Terp Daddy Slim was what it was and I was going to actually I had a different nickname picked out, I was going to go something totally different. Slap Daddy, give it to me. What is it, dude? El Gallo Blanco.
Speaker 1:Oh, that could be an underline to Terp, daddy Slim.
Speaker 4:Yeah, or maybe Cinco de Mayo. If we ever have a match, I'll be El Gallo Blanco.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're getting some head checks in the back.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Rooster dog, the rooster.
Speaker 1:So what is the Turp Daddy Slim? Or is it just being put together like that and it kind of you know what?
Speaker 2:Who gives a fuck? There's up, it's just me.
Speaker 1:There's not even go down that road. Because let me tell you something.
Speaker 4:There ain't much to it, it's just Terp, daddy Slim yeah.
Speaker 1:We. So I, I got to see you and then we got to meet you at the gym because you guys were shooting a season. You're at the gym and I, first time I got to meet these athletes again outside of the power slap, because when, when I see you guys, kind of everybody's, kind of in the zone, everybody's respectful, everybody is fantastic. But then there was no competitions. It was well, I was going to say there's no cameras, there's cameras everywhere. But I got to meet you guys in, in, in, I would see the real version, class acts, all of these guys, and then to then see you. What was it not? But a week later, on stage, full theatrics, talking shit, mind games, being that character, I love that stuff.
Speaker 1:I love all that stuff because I I grew up in wwf yeah and I love the and I know these guys, that's become the thing, right.
Speaker 2:It's like. It's like even in MMA, like the shit talking. There's like a factor to that. Do you guys feel like when the cameras come on you, you feel kind of forced to shit talk a little bit?
Speaker 4:I think it's natural. Yeah, it's like the floodgates just open.
Speaker 2:But not everybody, because it seems like that's natural for you, right? And I don't know if that's natural for you, right, and I don't know if that's natural for you, right? You know there's a respect thing in mma, so it's like you know, does there? Is there pressure from fans and like power slap to like be kind of a little more voice during this order, definitely, definitely, because my friends are always like you need to be more vocal.
Speaker 3:And for people like turp, that's so, not like you said, so, naturally, and that's who he is, you know. And for me, I'm like bro, I can't go up there talking shit because I sound corny as shit, because that's not who I am. It doesn't sound like me, you know, but I feel like. You know, there's dudes who do try to play the quiet role and it's boring, you know. You got to. I play, you know, a cool, calm role which you know like fits me well because I'm confident while I do it, you know, other guys are just like they're nervous. Other guys are just like they're nervous, like, oh shit, you know quiet, I don't really got much to say. And then you got people like Terp who, like that's who he is, you know, and it sounds like it sounds legit, it sounds like you know, real, that's who he is.
Speaker 1:Because then you got other guys who are just like up there screaming, saying stuff, and like I'm like the Power Slap 8, drano, tune in to that guy.
Speaker 4:Live and free from the Dragon's Lair. You heard it here first on the Rumba app Power Slap 8, June 28th, Fountain Blue Vern Cathy's getting put to sleep.
Speaker 2:We got it. We got it, boys. Let's close down, bro. He's soaked.
Speaker 1:So, I've seen the guy.
Speaker 2:I mean, have you guys ever thought about announcing at all? Because you're pretty good man and you obviously understand the game. Is that something that you'd do in the future?
Speaker 4:Dude whatever Miss Erica asks me to do, I'll do. I like that.
Speaker 1:It's Erica, yeah whatever they ask, who we're referring to is Miss Erica. Who is Miss Erica? That's the boss of.
Speaker 4:Power Slap. Yeah, her, dana, frank Hunter, erica the boss is of Power Slap, she's top dog up there. There we go, Wow.
Speaker 1:I want to talk still about the brands. Right, you have an incredible post-show celebration. Where did that come from? Yeah, where you drop and hump the floor and everything else.
Speaker 4:I wanted to try to get a little shot of that we, will we got the right camera angles today you know it really came from this cat who was underestimating out of me and what. What really grind me about it was is this dude thinks he was going to turn his power, slap shit and to be a ufc fighter, which is all fine and dandy if that's your goal. You know I'm not going gonna push anybody's goal down to the ground because I want everybody to achieve their goal. But this cat shit pile island shit pile cling bile, whatever his name is. This cat just was talking some shit like I didn't deserve to be up there and I'm a dog. So if you don't, if you think that you you know I don't, I don't deserve to be in the pit with you, I'll bite your neck off. Just telling you how I am. You are hype get him.
Speaker 2:I mean, I seen you slap the beard off somebody bro yeah, I turned into a barber that day.
Speaker 4:You know, sometimes sometimes I'm a slapper, sometimes I'm a uh, you know a floor humper, sometimes I'm a barber but this cat.
Speaker 3:This cat turned me into a little trim gave him a little.
Speaker 4:Pissed me off ronda's. Yeah, ronda was another one who pissed me off. He's hiding in his cousin's closet playing grab ass right now, as a matter of fact, ooh.
Speaker 1:Talking talk.
Speaker 4:Out in Cousin, kissing County, wherever the fuck that is. You heard it here. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I sense that there's some bitter sort of revenge that you want to get back on some of these guys as well, even though you kind of already put them down once.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:These guys are still more in the tank.
Speaker 4:Well, if they got that Power Slap jersey on, if they weigh 205 pounds, I don't like not one of them. Each and every single one of those in a 205 in Power Slap are my children. They're little boys, they're little punks, bitches.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about this rivalry you have with Wolverine Ronda actually. Yeah, I want to mention.
Speaker 4:Wolverine Ronda, actually the bearded man. Yeah, I want to mention Wolverine. Yeah, I didn't know who Wolverine is actually. I thought that was a. Superheroes do not exist. I don't know what this weirdo thinks he is.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll say Wolverine, you call him whatever you want.
Speaker 4:So yeah, I just you know he's, he's he, he deserves to be on. You know, deliverance 2. He should be playing some backwoods swamp weirdo, because he ain't no swamp savage. He's from Cousin Kissin' County I don't think they got a swamp out there, probably a couple of mud holes they done dug deep, and they're all playing around or hanging out in their trash cans trying to make a pool. I just don't like the fucking guy because for one, he ran off with my belt back to Cousin Kissing County, which pisses me off, and two he's 205 pounds.
Speaker 1:Well, post-lap five, he took that first one.
Speaker 3:But again, that was a great match.
Speaker 1:I was there for that, Bro, the damage you took in that and you still kept on talking.
Speaker 4:Well, recognize that's the first time I've been hit dog. I'm not like I said. I'm not like Robert. You know I've just been. I'm so thankful for Miss Erica calling my number dog, because I'm not like these guys really. You know, I was in high school. I was really good at lifting, really good at this and that, but I didn't carry it on, I didn't stick with it. I'm super happy for the opportunity and to be around athletes like this, but it wasn't my life. So when I saw the opportunity, dog, I hate anybody who's in my weight division trying to take it from me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have an image in my head of you taking one of those shots and you had black eye on both sides. You're bleeding and you had like black eye on both sides you know you're bleeding and you're like come on, bring it.
Speaker 1:And I and you know that was exciting, you know it's hard, it is just and you just stood there and kept on talking crap. Um, obviously it went down to the decision in the end, but you redeemed, you know that loss yeah, power slap beautifully oh man, and I've got a video which went viral on my Instagram because I slowed it down, and I just seen again he's a fellow redhead, right, I just seen this. I don't know 50 strands of ginger hair just come off this guy's beard.
Speaker 2:That's a great thought too, and I always thought I'm like is it an advantage having a beard? This sissy-ass boy straightens his beard.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Straightens his beard before the match. He's like girl girls use straighteners, so I don't know what the you know? Hey, and he's no Mr Olympian, so it don't matter.
Speaker 1:You're dugging yourself back up. You're good, he ain't shit. But let's talk about that match, because this to me was you know, I think you Terp Daddy in its finest. You know you were so hyped on stage. The place was electric. There's no, it was obviously, I think the second time it was open to General Pop, maybe the third time it was open to General Pop. So there was a lot of people there.
Speaker 3:First time.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of returning people who were there as fans and obviously you have a lot of celebrities there now that are filming off their own phones. You get to see this energy dude, this incredible knockout um again you know. Talk us through that match and how it felt for you to just get that redemption first off, nobody knocked him out like I did.
Speaker 4:Ronda ain't been put down like I put down ronda, not even the heavyweight champ of power. Slap right now, shout out to the bell, um. But it felt amazing because you know this sissy boy was crying about oh, they don't do this, they don't do this for me, or they don't. You know they don't. Whatever they, you know who. Who wants to get you got your hand out crying for something. Ain't nobody ever gonna give it to you. Mama, never gonna give you something. You got your hand out crying for it. So he should have known that.
Speaker 4:But he's got all this bitching that he does, crying about how he's, you know, the greatest of all time. But he don't get looked at it like this. But he don't do nothing. He ain't. He ain't went with nobody. When he went with me, it was shown that he wasn't nothing but a chump. The bearded bitch that's that's who he is. That's what he is. All the crying shows it. All the bitching and moaning, that's who he is. So when I first time, when I seen him hit the ground, electric dog Just lit up, fueled me, dude, I was just pumped.
Speaker 4:You were hyping the crowd up like mad bro Dude. I love it, and that's. You know. One of my things about the UFC that I love so much is when these guys are walking out through the crowd and everybody's yelling at them. I've always loathed that dog, I just wanted that shit. So that's an awesome part of it being out there with the crowd. But when he hit the ground and I'm just standing there like, yeah, bitch, that's where you belong on your knees, dog. So then you know he got back up this and that and I'm just so I love getting hit. This time I won the coin toss, which is cool, but I love getting hit. This time I won the coin toss, which is cool, but I love getting hit first.
Speaker 4:I don't even know if this cat Vergina will take a number two from me, but the first round will probably be when I get the knockout. You just called him Regina. Isn't it weird that these guys' daddies name him these weird names? You got Rhonda Vergina. I don't know if he's from, you know, I don't know where he's from or where a name like that is common, but anyhow he hits the ground, then I knock him out. He's stumbling, I see him. He don't even know how to use his head no more, his neck's noodled, his legs ain't working and I was just. Actually I was pumped, but I wasn't too pumped because you know, I made a mistake that night and I missed weight. So I should, I should have the championship built right now. Rhonda should be just soaking in his own tears, so, but you know what is that?
Speaker 2:what is that process after you get hit for for people who don't know right, like you have 10 seconds, like a boxing count and you have to stand in a certain place, or like what's the, what's the? That?
Speaker 3:so if you get knocked down or you get wobbled you know theybled they give you the eight count like boxing, and then the referee will tell you to walk and if you're walking, all baby deer leg stumbling all over they're going to call the match.
Speaker 3:You've got to be composed, even if you don't feel like you're right in your head. You'll be like shit, I've got to make this walk. But the initial thought after getting hit for me anyway I don't know if you feel it you probably feel the same way the initial thought for me after getting hit is confidence, because I don't care. I don't care who you are. You're somewhat type of nervous to get hit first.
Speaker 1:You know like.
Speaker 3:I don't know what this guy has to bring. You know, I know I got a chin, but you never know it could be my night, you know.
Speaker 2:Right, but there's got to be, as you know. Like you know you take a knee right, take a knee, take that eight, count, like if you get hurt. Like have you guys felt hurt where it was? Like let me just take a knee, or like you just want to kind of take it because you know just the adrenaline and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3:No, I haven't felt that yet. But you know some of my guys who have been put down. You know, like some of my friends.
Speaker 4:Well as well, right, so yeah and I've seen, like I like the eight count. I've seen, I've seen it work for guys when they get, they get hit and put down. But I think it's all about um, you know, because if you, if you just hit, get, get the shot and your confidence builds, why would you need an account? You know, just move on, let me hit this and uh, right, keep it going right.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be tough, though, when the crowd is yelling and you've, you've taken that, you got a buzz right. Listen, you can have the best chin in the world, but you take a hit. You know, I, I boxed, I played rugby and I've had many slaps across the face, but there's a sting to that where it's like, and then you kind of get that clarity add in the lights, add in the crowd and all that noise and the pressure. How fast does it take you to get that confidence and regain your bearings?
Speaker 3:Dude to me it's instincts.
Speaker 1:I'm still standing Right Immediately.
Speaker 3:And immediately, out of all my knockouts, the most viral video of me is I got hit and I just smile real big yeah, and I tell everyone I was like the reason that is so good is because it's genuine. Like I didn't just smile at the dude, he hit me and I was like whoa, all right, okay, well, yeah, this is fun. Now it's my turn. Yeah, and that match. Unfortunately, I went against a bitch too, and he claimed he broke his hand on my face.
Speaker 1:I think that's a hell of a compliment, right? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Iron jaw, yeah, and I didn't get to hit the dude. I kicked that dude's ass on the streets if I wanted to. You know to me he just cost me extra money. I could have got that knockout bonus that night. You know, I got my pay, my win bonus, but I could have got an extra, you know, extra check on top of that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, he uh scared, so wait what happened. So he broke his hand and he couldn't continue. So there's a no contest, or what happened?
Speaker 3:it was I, I, it got ruled a tko win for me, oh okay. But yeah, I mean like I think in, you know, I think in that aspect you know, like he got there's nothing wrong with his face, you know he could still take the hit, so he was just shitting his pants.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean? Yeah, it ain't for him. That cat definitely didn't belong here. This dude definitely looked like he belonged on a circus line, or something?
Speaker 1:How many on a circus line or something? How many guys have you seen come and go since the beginning of how you both got into power? Slam because you, like you said, it's not for everybody, right?
Speaker 4:yeah, a good bit. I mean we've had a couple people go back to their nine to fives and you know there's been a ton, bro, I think even before, you know, miss erica was on board.
Speaker 3:We did the first ever um exhibition a little over two, probably about two years ago yeah, a little over two years ago and, um, you know, they brought out like 50 some of us, you know, and uh, you know, from that group I think there's maybe like 10 guys left from that group, you know. And then, going on to season one, there's a whole extra group of guys, you know, and there's not too many left from then, you know. And the seasons are growing and the, the roster is growing, you know, but a lot of the original, which I call, you know, weeding out the dudes who don't have chins, you know, weeding out the dudes who don't belong here, you know, and it's growing. But, like the, the competition is growing a lot more, like you said, you would see, you know, like, initially you'd see a lot of knockouts and it's because some of those guys just weren't meant to be here, you know.
Speaker 3:And now you know there's still knockouts because dudes have power, you know. But there's a lot, there's a lot more close matches, there's a lot more entertaining matches and um, it's it's definitely groined, uh, with with more talent, you know. So, like you know, like initially we had, like I said, a ton of guys who fell off, but, like I said, I just don't think none of them belong here and there's still, like probably a few guys in that category. But as it continues to grow, you know, you'll see who's gonna keep going to the top.
Speaker 1:You know, and you mentioned seasons, now you just guys, have completed the third. You were coaching that season. Tell us a little bit of that. Give us some uh, exclusives on that. That was sick it was dope.
Speaker 3:I mean, uh, you know, like I said, I competed season one, you know, so I I knew what a lot of these guys are going through. You know, being in that house, you know, and, uh, you know, being able to be on the opposite end this time, you know, it was nice because I was able to, like you know, somewhat comfort them in like what I went through, you know. So it was an awesome time, man. It was definitely fun. You took the win too.
Speaker 2:You skirted out on me on the back end there. Tell us about the fights in one house. You mix in some liquor and there's about to be fireworks, right?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, and it's been every season. Of course you've got so much amount of dudes living in the same house together.
Speaker 2:And you have to fight each other at some point right. So there's that piece.
Speaker 1:Pull that mic down a little bit, just in case. Sorry about that. It's all right, is that okay? You still good, okay? Um yeah, sorry, don't jump in.
Speaker 2:I just make sure his audio is good, that's all yeah, but yeah, there's got to be fights in the house, right? Like you got, you got all these guys competing against each other. You got, you know, bravado in there, and then you got alcohol, and then you got alcohol, right. So, like you, throw those things together and you and you're going to create probably some good TV as well, right, bro?
Speaker 3:awesome TV.
Speaker 3:Yeah, great season, because the differences between this and Ultimate Fighter is these guys are just going to go slap each other. We're going to see who's the baddest of the two of us, you know, and fighting it's the same thing, you know. But like, there's so many different things you could get caught with in fighting, or you could get, you know, a wrestler who just lays on you the whole match, and this, we're just gonna go see who has bigger balls, you know. So I feel like it drives them that much more to want to say, oh well, you know, you know, like in, you know, like the ultimate fighter, we actually have to fight each other, so we're just gonna keep it cool and calm.
Speaker 3:You know, of course, sometimes there's gonna be some, some arguments, but in this we're like, oh, we're just seeing who has bigger balls, we're not actually fighting each other, you know, so it's it's causing a whole lot more of, you know, some of those feelings we're like all right, well, let's fight before we do smack each other right, and especially, like you said, you had the alcohol and everything like that, and you know, being alone, away, you know, cut off from everything, you know, inside this house, um, it just, you know, gets your gets everything in your head going and you want to get those feelings in there yeah, we were hyping him up too.
Speaker 4:We were letting him know don't be in that house kissing, go out there, go in there and make some noise, have some fun.
Speaker 1:This guy is the wrong person to get out of production. All right guys, this house we cannot destroy this time. Okay, like the last time, and then he gets an idea.
Speaker 2:He's the coach. She's like going there and shit up. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:He's the guy you say listen guys, you want some great you want to have a good?
Speaker 4:destroy this bitch, yeah, I.
Speaker 2:Assume, I assume, like kind of like the ultimate fighter if they, if you guys do, if they, if you get in a real fight, then they're probably kicking you off the show, right? Is it similar to the ultimate fighter in? That was in that respect dude.
Speaker 3:So, um, you know, from my experience in season one, you know they I don't think they really cared if the dudes fought, you know they'd of course they send in security. They'd uh, you know they'd break them up, you know, but their biggest rule was don't touch anyone on the crew. You guys do whatever you want to each other yeah you know, as long as it doesn't get like crazy violent, you know. But, dude, there was like on season one, like competing in there, dude, there was fights every night. There was some crazy things.
Speaker 2:You know that happened, that some, some of them didn't even get aired on tv and I'm like, damn, this shit was crazy but for you too right, like when you have a guy talking shit to you and you like, you're like yo I'll dust you, bro. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um like I don't care which way yeah like it's like yeah, dude, like I'll dust you outside right now. I mean, does that happen for you, where you have guys who are talking shit on you, right, and it's like they don't know you have an mma background or you're a fighter, I don't know? Does that happen?
Speaker 3:yeah, um, you know, in the house, you know it was somewhat like that, but you know, like I made it a point myself.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we, uh, we would have grappling competitions in the house I was a small I was the smallest dude in there by far and I tapped out every single person I went against. So you know, um, by the time we're about like a week in, you know, everyone knew and like, and, and on top of that, I'm not a guy who goes and pumps my nuts either, you know. So I don't, I don't go flex on them, they don't flex on me. I was kind of pretty much just cool with everyone in the house, but we would, like I said we'd have grappling competitions. I tapped every single dude in their house. So I think they knew not really to just come with me like that, especially when they're drunk, because I don't drink either. So I'm like I'm going to be in my right mind and if you keep coming at me I might just have to put you out. I'd be like day one.
Speaker 1:Okay, guys, on YouTube, this is my highlight reel. Whatever you want to progress from here, it's up to you, but you can see my highlight reel now. Okay, everything's on standard. We'll move on. You want to be added to it? Yeah exactly, but suffice to say. Obviously we can't talk about the details, but this Friday, big day, it's going to be released in the trailer, season three, and needless to say, it's epic.
Speaker 3:Super epic. You know, like me and Terp, as coaches, definitely brought the heat. We, we brought the heat every night and um that that portrayed onto our guys you know. So they brought the heat and, like I said, uh, we can't really say too much, but just know that this is an epic season yeah you know I'm biased because I was part of season one, but this is definitely the best.
Speaker 1:It's pretty close up there with the best season I can't wait, mr humble, again, we've heard it's the best season. I can't wait, mr Humble, again We've heard it's the best season. We'll say it. I'll say it it's good, watch it. Obviously, you guys are the coaches, but how hard was it for you to maintain your friendship whilst being rivals in the house?
Speaker 4:Well, no rivals. I mean, he's already actually, you know, he's coached me before One of my events. He was a coach of mine and I knocked the clown out, just smooth out and um. So we had little fun that we play. I mean, the dude taxed me in bowling, absolutely rolled me like a bowling ball well, we can't talk too much about the show. Well, that's okay, yeah, true, but anyhow, yeah, dude leave that out, though it's bowling, yeah, okay no, like you said, cool though yeah, we're.
Speaker 3:Like I said, we're friends. You know we've been friends since before the show, um, so it made it that much cooler because you know, like in season two you know there was just that bad blood the whole time bad blood, so like it was cool, it was cool, but then at times you're just like all right, I'm tired of watching chris freak out every single, every single episode and with me and him we talk our shit.
Speaker 1:You know we're, but right after we'd be like damn bro, that was sick, we'd shake hands, we'd hug.
Speaker 3:We're like that was cool, we laid it up, you know. So it was definitely awesome because, like you know, we didn't ever come to a day of filming or a day of you know of uh, of matches where we're like off this dude. You know, we're just in a shitty attitude. We're there and we're having fun, we're talking, smack, and then right after, like that was sick.
Speaker 2:When you guys are coaching on the show like that too, though I mean even some of the guys that you're coaching will you end up facing those guys in the future? They're unlucky.
Speaker 4:They better hope not. They fucking better hope not. I was there and I seen every single one of them.
Speaker 2:But when you build a relationship with somebody like that, is it harder to go and and fight them right? Because I know it's like that in mma a bit right, you've formed good relationships. You know sometimes you don't want to really fight each other, right? So is it like that as well?
Speaker 3:yeah and I think no. I think, uh, you know, because I know what you're saying. You know because in mma you know we're fighting on these smaller shows. Like I don't want to fight guys I've trained with at this gym. Right, we make it to the ufc and we like, hey, you guys gotta fight each other. It's business at that point well, we had.
Speaker 2:We had Merab and Aljo on the show too, and they were like, nah, we just won't do it. They were refusing, and I know there's brothers yeah, and I know there's been times UFC is like nah, you need to, you need to fight each other, but I think it's a thing, I think when it's the top of the line promotion like power slap is uh, there shouldn't be no, but there shouldn't be no barrier, right?
Speaker 3:you know, um, like I said, you're fighting on a smaller promotion. You go to the one of these smaller slap fight things. You know, like, if you don't want to go against your friend, that's cool. You're not getting, you're not getting that much publicity, you're not getting paid that much, but you make it to the ufc, you make it to power slap. That are these two top of the line promotions, like there's no barriers. You fucking it's business. At that point. You know, I'm gonna love you after the match, you know.
Speaker 2:But I'm gonna slap the shit out of you and I'll give you a hug afterwards.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but we're both here trying to chase our dream. We're both here trying to, you know, give our families better lives. You know, and at that point it's business. You know we're gonna be still best friends after you know. But we have to go, show you know what, why we're both the best and, and you know, see who's the better of the two. You know, and you never know, it could be your night one and it could end up being a rematch and your night another night. But we have to show, when we're at one of these top-of-the-line promotions, who is the better person.
Speaker 2:And professionalism. Right, Exactly.
Speaker 4:I definitely take a less stoic look at it. I'm not here for any friends at all.
Speaker 1:Just this guy.
Speaker 4:Exactly, that's the thing, I'll make friends with people who weigh less, less than me I'll do other weight classes, we can be friends. Yeah, class, fuck you if I gotta cut half my body off to fight you, we can hang out well, you mentioned weight classes.
Speaker 1:Obviously right is. Is it very hard for yourself to make the weight that you're uh slapping in?
Speaker 4:not really. So I missed weight because I kind of off a little bit and um what's off me.
Speaker 4:Um, like, I kind of just thought I was going to be able to use the sauna, kind of just thought I was going to be able to use the sauna more, or I thought I was going to be able to. I thought the sauna was just going to erase the weight. So I thought it was just going to be like a magic button I walk in there and it's gone, you know. And it didn't turn out to be that way, um, but you know, it's one of the one of the ways power slap has changed my way, my life is because it, because it's given me the opportunity to kind of focus on my health and focus on taking care of myself mentally, physically, and honing in on my health. So I've gotten back into. You know, it's never been a problem at all.
Speaker 4:Making weight's never been an issue for me. Every time I've showed up and I've done it, and this time I've showed up and I've done it, and this time I've showed up and I've done it, vagina's getting put to sleep. So no, it's not really. It's not really. And it's like I used to watch UFC on TV and I'd be like man, I wish I could just go cut weight and go fight somebody. I'd love to just cut weight and go fight, so now I get the opportunity to do that.
Speaker 2:But when you're cutting your weight, you're not letting yourself get too high, right? Because nobody really wants like a drastic weight cut the week of the fight, right.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:In MMA, you see guys drop cutting 20 pounds you know week of the event. You guys don't want to be in that frame. It's all three days.
Speaker 3:No, and you do Like I walk around January 160, 165 ish, and I fight mma at 135, you know, and, uh, you know, power slap. I compete at 155, you know which. There was never. There was really never a 155 division and I just I kept winning, you know. So I kind of feel like I'm, you know, like pioneer of this division, which is cool, you know. And um, like you said, you know, like um terp, he's doing a lot healthier this time. You know he's not having to kill himself, because I don't feel like there's no reason you should be cutting 10, 15 pounds to go slap In MMA, of course you know.
Speaker 2:There's an advantage having a little bit more of that weight. But I was thinking to myself like is there an advantage? I mean, especially if you're just coming in like two pounds over, like what is that going to do for your slap right?
Speaker 3:Exactly, and everyone, I'm like even an extra 10, 15 pounds ain't gonna add nothing to your slap, you know you're gonna slap the same way, it's gonna drain your head and you're probably gonna take the slap the same, you know. But, um, yeah, so I, like I said, I I walk around about 160 and I compete at 155, so it's it's never really too hard for me. Like the nerves alone I'm, I'm waking up and just pissing that day from nerves. So I'll just walk out there and just weigh that much, just based off, you know, just my natural human responses. You know, uh, which was kind of funny, because my last match I actually I woke up about about 159. You know, I came in that week, I was about 165, woke about 159 and I was like I'll be good. You know, like I go downstairs to the gym and I run two miles and I go check my weight again.
Speaker 3:Dude, I only lost half a pound, I was 158 and a half when that happens, yeah, and I actually had to go to the sauna this time and I was sitting in the sauna and I was getting a little caught in mouth and I called. I called one of my mma coaches. I said bro, I said I'm a little caught in mouth cutting a 155 and he's like what the fuck you doing? Yeah, you know, because he knows I have to. You know, always get down to a smaller weight, which you know, the mma weight cut is horrible, bro, you know, and I I couldn't, I couldn't picture myself stepping up there to slap someone by going through one of those weight cuts, you know, I mean, um, I feel like you're more prone to getting knocked out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you're dehydrated like that, yeah it's like you're the way, um, you know, one of my uh sports coaches used to explain it. He, he put like a rock in an empty can he's like, and he'd shake it around. He said, bro, he's like, you're that dehydrated, that's what your brain's like, and they're getting hit. It's that rock and they're just bouncing off the sides. And, yeah, like you are more, like you cut a ton of weight, you are definitely more prone to getting knocked out and even if you do have a good rehydration after you know there's still that like little bit of where it hasn't fully soaked into your whole body.
Speaker 3:you know Like you start like, oh shit, why is it not just flowing through my body? Like I said, I think if you cut over 10 pounds for a power slap, I think it actually works against you, not for you.
Speaker 2:Right. Is USADA testing a thing in power slap. Do they test you guys? What's going on there?
Speaker 3:It's not USADA anymore. It's a different company.
Speaker 2:I switched over yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we get tested the same exact way the UFC fighters do.
Speaker 2:Really yeah.
Speaker 3:Interesting, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1:That was something I found out when I went to post-op three, I think, because I seen some of the super heavyweights coming. I was like man, he's a big boy.
Speaker 2:Bro, some of those guys, the big Hawaiian Hawaiians yeah, they're huge dude, not when I get slapped by that guy anywhere.
Speaker 4:Not even in the arm, or his little brother, or his little brother's just as big dude.
Speaker 1:They've got some wild fans that come out for them too, I know you guys have some fantastic fan bases, but them Hawaiians bring it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know those Hawaiians definitely get behind them.
Speaker 1:And then the big boys and girls that are sitting in the audience cheering their favorite people out. But I want to go back to you mentioned earlier also in the show about nerves and stuff like that. Is there like a pre-match ritual, superstitions that you guys go through to get you into that character, to get you into that zone, before you walk onto that stage, through that audience and on that stage to battle?
Speaker 4:You know I just get angry man. You know, I think anger is a gift that some people don't have, you know. So it's not like I'm I'm not back there trying to be too chill. I'm not back there. Uh, I'm, I'm not. You know. To be completely honest, I'm definitely nervous. There's nerves going through me, but I just try to be mad and angry and just pissed dog that's it.
Speaker 3:And and for me, like, like we said that, like there's completely different people do this and it works. You know that works for terp. He goes out there and kills it. And for me I say I get nervous and I take a nap backstage look at this guy the calm, the calm.
Speaker 1:We got the ying and the yang, yeah, the two polar opposites.
Speaker 4:That would kill me dog.
Speaker 3:Yes, I really do and that you know like, when I first switched over to my last MMA gym I was at, I had switched over to them because my initial one had shut down and five of us fought that night and my coach, my old head coach, shout out Grizzly Kimble, dude, he's just like Terpy, he gets wild, he wants to get hype and he's back there, you know. And his dad kept telling me do you miss your old gym? Because I'm just sitting in the corner, because you miss your old gym. I said no, bro, I just that's just not who I am.
Speaker 3:I don't like to get like. I feel like when I get super hyped and like that dude, I just feel like I'm freezing, I'm like, oh shit, I'm tensing up too much, you know. So for me, like I like to, I like take a nap, I wake up and if for slap dude, I warm up the same exact way I would for an MMA fight, I get back there, I get my body sweating because I feel like you know even though it is just a slap, you're getting.
Speaker 1:You need to prepare your body, keep yourself loose, yeah.
Speaker 3:Your whole body is keeping you up. It's not just your chin, it's your whole body keeping you up. You know, and it's your whole body throwing that smack.
Speaker 2:So I like to get myself, like, completely ready to go, you know, yeah, so that's one of my, yeah, one of my rituals. I like to just what about for you? I mean, you didn't come from an mma background, right? So when you're warming up or you're getting yourself angry, are you also stretching, you know, and doing that kind of stuff?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, I'm stretching, uh, stretching my shoulder, stretching my arms, just doing like some uh, you know, just some little stretches and shit, but really staying focused yeah staying super focused because on the on the regular, you know, I'm not, I'm not in that type of, I'm not on that type of time. You know, I'm just, I'm really just chilling.
Speaker 4:So then when it's time to go, it's just easy enough for me to just just keep it on yeah and I think it's important for me too, because I get in there and then I can lock it in, I can stay there. I don't have to worry about like turning it back on getting lost in it, getting to this or that. It just helps me stay in it and I think, honestly, it helps me deal with some of like the crowd, the lights and shit, like letting that energy out, just like, okay, you like this shit. You know, it's just like I'm kind of nervous to be too wild or whatever Just let too much out.
Speaker 4:I don't want to scare anybody by letting too much out.
Speaker 2:I think everybody is looking forward to it. Now, at this point they're like come on, daddy, give it to us Unleash unleash In wrapping this up, guys.
Speaker 1:obviously I know you've got a big media day coming up to the event, so I know you guys have got to keep on timelines. But we've got two questions from the fans and if anything you want to add in at the end. One question is from the fans. If you could slap the shit out of any celebrity, who would it be? Robert Foote.
Speaker 3:Good question Any celebrity Call him out? Any celebrity call them out? Yeah, no, it's funny, I said it after one of my interviews.
Speaker 3:I said sean o'malley, because you know that's that's, my that's my it's my fight week class and then I think it'd be cool, you know like to start bringing more you know ufc fighters over. So you know, I've never really thought about that question too much. I've always just acted on it based off, you know, trying to get, trying to get more people to cross over, you know so. So I just always said Sean O'Malley, I'm like I said I already knocked out his Walmart version.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? You knocked out the fake sugar.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, the fake one, yeah, broke his hand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I broke his hand on my face. Tell me you got a video of that dude?
Speaker 3:No, that's the one I saw. I didn't get to hit him, so I actually. Yeah, I just bitched him out.
Speaker 2:Sugar Sean, you just got called out. Bro, you can do a crossover with my guy right here. Turf Daddy, tell us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who would you love to slap the shit out of? What celebrity would you love to slap the shit out of?
Speaker 4:Dude, somebody mean, you know, I don't know, maybe probably you know, I don't know Eminem, Eminem, just to be there. I don't know somebody.
Speaker 2:Slim Shady. Somebody like?
Speaker 4:that Slim Shady? I don't know, you know.
Speaker 1:What's Slim Shady done to you, bro?
Speaker 2:Dude, nothing, really Nothing really he might throw out a diss track after yeah, I know.
Speaker 4:Maybe I just want to flap him so hard he makes a diss track about me Wow.
Speaker 3:You have to take out the Rock, bro. I saw he's been on the.
Speaker 1:Rock, that's a good one, yeah. No, the Rock's off limits the.
Speaker 4:Rock's my boy, that's flexing boy. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:No, touching the Rock no.
Speaker 4:Who's that Dana just had up there? I want to Shannon.
Speaker 3:Shannon.
Speaker 4:Shannon.
Speaker 1:Sharp Shannon.
Speaker 4:Sharp yeah, get your ass on the slap stage, brother.
Speaker 1:That's a big-ass dude too, though Took Daddy Slim calling out.
Speaker 4:Shannon Sharp Dude. Dana cooked it up. In the beginning they were talking about. Dana said he was going to get him.
Speaker 2:He don't want none of that. Five-hand slap bro, he don't want that.
Speaker 1:He don't want that. Think Sean and Shapa make 205?
Speaker 2:Put that baby powder on there and everything. Wow, hey, he's saying unlimited.
Speaker 1:Unlimited. All right, sean, and you heard it, your main man is calling us out here. Hey, I know he kind of has issues over there when he was answering this question, we were okay. Okay, because I don't want to miss that sound bite on Sugar. Sean O'Malley, if we need to do that again, huh, oh, my goodness, this freaking camera.
Speaker 3:Well, we got it right.
Speaker 1:Okay, good, good. And then the last one, when I kind of missed this. Then the evolution of Power Slap. Where would you guys love to see this go?
Speaker 4:The Olympics, the Olympics. Never thought of that Great call olympics power slap at the olympics huh yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 2:I feel like you know, because I've seen some like these russians and like these dudes and like I feel like there's some pretty badass guys out there too, across the world that have I don't know I've seen other leagues or I've seen other competitions like is there a crossover that could ever happen? I I don't even know what's got.
Speaker 3:The dumpling, yeah, and that's one thing I, I think I'd want to see uh evolve to. You know, is uh pretty much the, the stage that ufc's on where they're having these pay-per-views every other weekend. You know different countries, various. You know different different cities here in the us, you know, I think, I think that would be awesome for the sport. You know, because, um, you know it's, it's, it's fun to watch dude, like I've been watching, I've been going mma fights my whole life and I honestly, you know the point where I'm like I don't really care that much. You know, yeah, and seeing this though, you know, because like it's like it's instant gratification. You're like, dude bro, bring there in the in the arena. You guys have been to it. You know like the whole crowd gets quiet once this dude's about to slap dude yes, and once you hear that, pop you have to go, you have to go.
Speaker 2:Everybody in the crowd and I tell all my time, dude.
Speaker 3:I tell all my friends, bro, I'm like seeing it, like seeing the knockouts on tv and everything like that's cool, but you, you're there in the arena, dude, it's a whole different game I say the same thing to everybody man like you gotta come see one of these things live like when you hear that slap in person, it's wild the build-up, the anticipation, the metrics, the lights, how everything is done, the stage yeah, having two, men yeah
Speaker 1:incredible to take this again conversation to turn it what it is now, and all the sponsors that are getting involved with it. Now it's live on rumble, um, just gonna Rumble. It's going to keep growing, dude, it's going to keep growing. Yeah, and I'm excited to see both you guys and both great representatives of the sport. First of all, guys, round of applause for that Great job. Shout out to the Dragon's Lair. Oh, my man, keep crushing boys.
Speaker 2:I appreciate it. Keep crushing it.
Speaker 1:But you guys are doing a great job. Obviously You're doing your media tour and you're getting more face, more camera time and it seems like you both have found a home in Power Slap and I'm again excited to see you grow into these new endeavors and seeing you represented on some new sponsors you can take it back home. I'm excited guys.
Speaker 4:Live and free on the promo lab.
Speaker 1:Yes, sir, he's already got the promo done. But, by the way, before you shoot, we just jumped on the podcast. In the beginning, you pulled out a pair of glasses. Yeah, yeah Bro it was like Clark Kent he sat down, put the glasses on and then he just transformed into Terp Daddy, Terp Daddy.
Speaker 4:Slim. It's Sir Terp, daddy Slim. See, you know, it's all about the image, you know I want people to think I'm blind.
Speaker 1:Well, to be honest, wear them glasses, man. You've got a little bit of Conor McGregor vibes going on. The power slap version. So I think you can play with that too. My friend, don't break them. I'm giving him compliments, just drop some on the floor. Anyway guys, is there any parting words you want to?
Speaker 3:say to your fans your sponsors powerslap and and when we leave it there, thank you, yeah, thank you, man, um, like I said, it's been, it's been big blessings. You know, um, I thank god every day, you know for uh for taking me as far as as I've gone.
Speaker 3:You know, I've never expected this much things come out of it and, uh, it just keeps growing. You know, and you know, just being on a podcast like this is even surreal. You know, it's not, it's stuff you, we watch back home. You know, like a lot of my, my friends watch your show and and for for being able to be on here. You know, it's just, it's surreal and it's just going to keep getting bigger and bigger. So you know, I'm definitely blessed and I thank everyone who's pushed me along the way. I thank Power Slap for, you know, so it's been awesome yeah it don't get much better than this man.
Speaker 4:It really don't. It's awesome this opportunity being in here hanging out with y'all you know, it really is something sweet.
Speaker 1:All right, well, in part. Then cut us that post-lap promo for this Friday's event. You nasty.
Speaker 4:If you're listening here to Straight Outta the Flayer, I don't know what you're doing on June 28th, but it better not be watching Wheel of Fortune. The news Turn off Jeopardy because you need to watch Power Slap 8, june 28th, live and free on the Rumble app. That's it.
Speaker 2:Boom.
Speaker 1:Boom.
Speaker 2:Nothing else to say, mic drop.
Speaker 1:Guys, pleasure to have both of you. Jay Rock, my man, man, as always, what a great episode. A lot of fun, a lot of information and for all you guys at home, make sure you subscribe, like, comment. Get on over to these guys' Instagram pages. Follow them.
Speaker 2:Tune in to Rumble this Friday. We are Straight Outta La Lair.
Speaker 1:And I am out.
